You can create the second-level nested tuplet first, and then put it all in a higher-level (or 'first level') tuplet, but as best as I can determine so far, the second-level nested tuplet is discarded and reverts to being notes at the same level as the other notes. Īs you observed, you can't do it in what one might expect is the logical way, where first you create the high-level tuplet and then create the second-level nested tuplets. I did a few experiments toward the goal of determining what happens when you attempt to input nested tuplets (two-level only) in NOTION 6.5. They do this intuitively, because they are pristinely precise time machines. It's a virtual festival of tuplets and syncopation, but it's done 'by ear' and 'by feel'. Two examples come to mind in more recent popular music-'recent' in the sense of being over 50 years ago, but so what-and the key to understanding the rhythm patterns are the rhythm guitar players (John Lennon and Keith Richards, respectively). It's more of a 'feel' type of thing, and in many instances the ability to 'feel' intricate rhythm patterns is one of the primary characteristics that distinguishes what we colloquially consider to be 'great performers' in one way or another. Of course, when one considers the popular music of the so-called 'Youth of Today' over the past century or so, nearly every song is performed with rhythm patterns based on nested tuplets but very few of the songs actually have nested tuplets in a formalized way.

It's an interesting way to have a bit of FUN with rhythm patterns, and it probably is useful at one time or another but overall it's very confusing if one is a musician or singer. There are a few musicians and singers on this planet who can sight-read and play or sing nested tuplets and after careful consideration I think there at least two. Can you afford 24x7 armed security guards?

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